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Former investment bank FX trader: Risk management part II
Firstly, thanks for the overwhelming comments and feedback. Genuinely really appreciated. I am pleased 500+ of you find it useful. If you didn't read the first post you can do so here: risk management part I. You'll need to do so in order to make sense of the topic. As ever please comment/reply below with questions or feedback and I'll do my best to get back to you. Part II
Letting stops breathe
When to change a stop
Entering and exiting winning positions
Letting stops breathe
We talked earlier about giving a position enough room to breathe so it is not stopped out in day-to-day noise. Let’s consider the chart below and imagine you had a trailing stop. It would be super painful to miss out on the wider move just because you left a stop that was too tight. Imagine being long and stopped out on a meaningless retracement ... ouch! One simple technique is simply to look at your chosen chart - let’s say daily bars. And then look at previous trends and use the measuring tool. Those generally look something like this and then you just click and drag to measure. For example if we wanted to bet on a downtrend on the chart above we might look at the biggest retracement on the previous uptrend. That max drawdown was about 100 pips or just under 1%. So you’d want your stop to be able to withstand at least that. If market conditions have changed - for example if CVIX has risen - and daily ranges are now higher you should incorporate that. If you know a big event is coming up you might think about that, too. The human brain is a remarkable tool and the power of the eye-ball method is not to be dismissed. This is how most discretionary traders do it. There are also more analytical approaches. Some look at the Average True Range (ATR). This attempts to capture the volatility of a pair, typically averaged over a number of sessions. It looks at three separate measures and takes the largest reading. Think of this as a moving average of how much a pair moves. For example, below shows the daily move in EURUSD was around 60 pips before spiking to 140 pips in March. Conditions were clearly far more volatile in March. Accordingly, you would need to leave your stop further away in March and take a correspondingly smaller position size. ATR is available on pretty much all charting systems Professional traders tend to use standard deviation as a measure of volatility instead of ATR. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Averages are useful but can be misleading when regimes switch (see above chart). Once you have chosen a measure of volatility, stop distance can then be back-tested and optimised. For example does 2x ATR work best or 5x ATR for a given style and time horizon? Discretionary traders may still eye-ball the ATR or standard deviation to get a feeling for how it has changed over time and what ‘normal’ feels like for a chosen study period - daily, weekly, monthly etc.
Reasons to change a stop
As a general rule you should be disciplined and not change your stops. Remember - losers average losers. This is really hard at first and we’re going to look at that in more detail later. There are some good reasons to modify stops but they are rare. One reason is if another risk management process demands you stop trading and close positions. We’ll look at this later. In that case just close out your positions at market and take the loss/gains as they are. Another is event risk. If you have some big upcoming data like Non Farm Payrolls that you know can move the market +/- 150 pips and you have no edge going into the release then many traders will take off or scale down their positions. They’ll go back into the positions when the data is out and the market has quietened down after fifteen minutes or so. This is a matter of some debate - many traders consider it a coin toss and argue you win some and lose some and it all averages out. Trailing stops can also be used to ‘lock in’ profits. We looked at those before. As the trade moves in your favour (say up if you are long) the stop loss ratchets with it. This means you may well end up ‘stopping out’ at a profit - as per the below example. The mighty trailing stop loss order It is perfectly reasonable to have your stop loss move in the direction of PNL. This is not exposing you to more risk than you originally were comfortable with. It is taking less and less risk as the trade moves in your favour. Trend-followers in particular love trailing stops. One final question traders ask is what they should do if they get stopped out but still like the trade. Should they try the same trade again a day later for the same reasons? Nope. Look for a different trade rather than getting emotionally wed to the original idea. Let’s say a particular stock looked cheap based on valuation metrics yesterday, you bought, it went down and you got stopped out. Well, it is going to look even better on those same metrics today. Maybe the market just doesn’t respect value at the moment and is driven by momentum. Wait it out. Otherwise, why even have a stop in the first place?
Entering and exiting winning positions
Take profits are the opposite of stop losses. They are also resting orders, left with the broker, to automatically close your position if it reaches a certain price. Imagine I’m long EURUSD at 1.1250. If it hits a previous high of 1.1400 (150 pips higher) I will leave a sell order to take profit and close the position. The rookie mistake on take profits is to take profit too early. One should start from the assumption that you will win on no more than half of your trades. Therefore you will need to ensure that you win more on the ones that work than you lose on those that don’t. Sad to say but incredibly common: retail traders often take profits way too early This is going to be the exact opposite of what your emotions want you to do. We are going to look at that in the Psychology of Trading chapter. Remember: let winners run. Just like stops you need to know in advance the level where you will close out at a profit. Then let the trade happen. Don’t override yourself and let emotions force you to take a small profit. A classic mistake to avoid. The trader puts on a trade and it almost stops out before rebounding. As soon as it is slightly in the money they spook and cut out, instead of letting it run to their original take profit. Do not do this.
Entering positions with limit orders
That covers exiting a position but how about getting into one? Take profits can also be left speculatively to enter a position. Sometimes referred to as “bids” (buy orders) or “offers” (sell orders). Imagine the price is 1.1250 and the recent low is 1.1205. You might wish to leave a bid around 1.2010 to enter a long position, if the market reaches that price. This way you don’t need to sit at the computer and wait. Again, typically traders will use tech analysis to identify attractive levels. Again - other traders will cluster with your orders. Just like the stop loss we need to bake that in. So this time if we know everyone is going to buy around the recent low of 1.1205 we might leave the take profit bit a little bit above there at 1.1210 to ensure it gets done. Sure it costs 5 more pips but how mad would you be if the low was 1.1207 and then it rallied a hundred points and you didn’t have the trade on?! There are two more methods that traders often use for entering a position. Scaling in is one such technique. Let’s imagine that you think we are in a long-term bulltrend for AUDUSD but experiencing a brief retracement. You want to take a total position of 500,000 AUD and don’t have a strong view on the current price action. You might therefore leave a series of five bids of 100,000. As the price moves lower each one gets hit. The nice thing about scaling in is it reduces pressure on you to pick the perfect level. Of course the risk is that not all your orders get hit before the price moves higher and you have to trade at-market. Pyramiding is the second technique. Pyramiding is for take profits what a trailing stop loss is to regular stops. It is especially common for momentum traders. Pyramiding into a position means buying more as it goes in your favour Again let’s imagine we’re bullish AUDUSD and want to take a position of 500,000 AUD. Here we add 100,000 when our first signal is reached. Then we add subsequent clips of 100,000 when the trade moves in our favour. We are waiting for confirmation that the move is correct. Obviously this is quite nice as we humans love trading when it goes in our direction. However, the drawback is obvious: we haven’t had the full amount of risk on from the start of the trend. You can see the attractions and drawbacks of both approaches. It is best to experiment and choose techniques that work for your own personal psychology as these will be the easiest for you to stick with and build a disciplined process around.
Risk:reward and win ratios
Be extremely skeptical of people who claim to win on 80% of trades. Most traders will win on roughly 50% of trades and lose on 50% of trades. This is why risk management is so important! Once you start keeping a trading journal you’ll be able to see how the win/loss ratio looks for you. Until then, assume you’re typical and that every other trade will lose money. If that is the case then you need to be sure you make more on the wins than you lose on the losses. You can see the effect of this below. A combination of win % and risk:reward ratio determine if you are profitable A typical rule of thumb is that a ratio of 1:3 works well for most traders. That is, if you are prepared to risk 100 pips on your stop you should be setting a take profit at a level that would return you 300 pips. One needn’t be religious about these numbers - 11 pips and 28 pips would be perfectly fine - but they are a guideline. Again - you should still use technical analysis to find meaningful chart levels for both the stop and take profit. Don’t just blindly take your stop distance and do 3x the pips on the other side as your take profit. Use the ratio to set approximate targets and then look for a relevant resistance or support level in that kind of region.
Not all returns are equal. Suppose you are examining the track record of two traders. Now, both have produced a return of 14% over the year. Not bad! The first trader, however, made hundreds of small bets throughout the year and his cumulative PNL looked like the left image below. The second trader made just one bet — he sold CADJPY at the start of the year — and his PNL looked like the right image below with lots of large drawdowns and volatility. Would you rather have the first trading record or the second? If you were investing money and betting on who would do well next year which would you choose? Of course all sensible people would choose the first trader. Yet if you look only at returns one cannot distinguish between the two. Both are up 14% at that point in time. This is where the Sharpe ratio helps . A high Sharpe ratio indicates that a portfolio has better risk-adjusted performance. One cannot sensibly compare returns without considering the risk taken to earn that return. If I can earn 80% of the return of another investor at only 50% of the risk then a rational investor should simply leverage me at 2x and enjoy 160% of the return at the same level of risk. This is very important in the context of Execution Advisor algorithms (EAs) that are popular in the retail community. You must evaluate historic performance by its risk-adjusted return — not just the nominal return. Incidentally look at the Sharpe ratio of ones that have been live for a year or more ... Otherwise an EA developer could produce two EAs: the first simply buys at 1000:1 leverage on January 1st ; and the second sells in the same manner. At the end of the year, one of them will be discarded and the other will look incredible. Its risk-adjusted return, however, would be abysmal and the odds of repeated success are similarly poor.
The Sharpe ratio works like this:
It takes the average returns of your strategy;
It deducts from these the risk-free rate of return i.e. the rate anyone could have got by investing in US government bonds with very little risk;
It then divides this total return by its own volatility - the more smooth the return the higher and better the Sharpe, the more volatile the lower and worse the Sharpe.
For example, say the return last year was 15% with a volatility of 10% and US bonds are trading at 2%. That gives (15-2)/10 or a Sharpe ratio of 1.3. As a rule of thumb a Sharpe ratio of above 0.5 would be considered decent for a discretionary retail trader. Above 1 is excellent. You don’t really need to know how to calculate Sharpe ratios. Good trading software will do this for you. It will either be available in the system by default or you can add a plug-in.
VAR is another useful measure to help with drawdowns. It stands for Value at Risk. Normally people will use 99% VAR (conservative) or 95% VAR (aggressive). Let’s say you’re long EURUSD and using 95% VAR. The system will look at the historic movement of EURUSD. It might spit out a number of -1.2%. A 5% VAR of -1.2% tells you you should expect to lose 1.2% on 5% of days, whilst 95% of days should be better than that This means it is expected that on 5 days out of 100 (hence the 95%) the portfolio will lose 1.2% or more. This can help you manage your capital by taking appropriately sized positions. Typically you would look at VAR across your portfolio of trades rather than trade by trade. Sharpe ratios and VAR don’t give you the whole picture, though. Legendary fund manager, Howard Marks of Oaktree, notes that, while tools like VAR and Sharpe ratios are helpful and absolutely necessary, the best investors will also overlay their own judgment. Investors can calculate risk metrics like VaR and Sharpe ratios (we use them at Oaktree; they’re the best tools we have), but they shouldn’t put too much faith in them. The bottom line for me is that risk management should be the responsibility of every participant in the investment process, applying experience, judgment and knowledge of the underlying investments.Howard Marks of Oaktree Capital What he’s saying is don’t misplace your common sense. Do use these tools as they are helpful. However, you cannot fully rely on them. Both assume a normal distribution of returns. Whereas in real life you get “black swans” - events that should supposedly happen only once every thousand years but which actually seem to happen fairly often. These outlier events are often referred to as “tail risk”. Don’t make the mistake of saying “well, the model said…” - overlay what the model is telling you with your own common sense and good judgment.
Coming up in part III
Available here Squeezes and other risks Market positioning Bet correlation Crap trades, timeouts and monthly limits *** Disclaimer:This content is not investment advice and you should not place any reliance on it. The views expressed are the author's own and should not be attributed to any other person, including their employer.
So I started trading forex about a month ago using a signals provider despite all the 80% of people lose money I thought I was different. I had a great start, my $600 account was up to 1200, I of course had no risk management or anything of that sort and so within a few days I was down to 100 after thinking I could trade on my own. When my signals provider gave a signal to sell gold some time a few weeks ago I went all in and closed the trades with around $1000. I then proceeded to buy gold a cut that profit down to around a balance of $500. It was around this time I realised I should probably learn about what I’m doing before I lose the rest of my account. Fast forward to last week my account was at $0 due to my own bad trades but also a severe downswing on the signal providers side, who in my head could do no wrong after the initial profits. Then after a lot of research I set up an EA which over time seemed to have good profit and I completed with backtests for 2 months with great results. Confident I knew everything I put another $1000 in( as a student this is a lot to me) and let it off. I was trading the 4 pairs GBPUSD EURUSD AUDUSD and NZDUSD and the bot was on sell only mode. I activated it yesterday morning and closed the day with around $5 profit and $40 dd which all seemed swell to me. Fast forward to 40 minutes ago I woke up and I was down $700, after closing the trades for some unknown sleepy reason I decided to buy XAUUSD costing me another $160 despite being up on it at one point it came down and hit my stop loss. To make a long story short I’ve lost all but $140 of a $1600 investment because I think I know it all don’t use risk management or listen to the experts. I got what was coming to me, forex is not a get rich quick scheme and I know that now , pitty it’s a month and $1450 later when I could have just listened to every sensible person on the Internet
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Which is the best auto trading robot for forex market?
I would not dare to say that there is any best auto trading robot for Forex Market. There may be in the world, but it probably not for sales nor for the public. If you have been in the forex market for a while, you will naturally become curious about automating your trades when you have a strategy and money management that bring profitability consistently. I am an active signals follower and been in this industry for years thus these are a few tips before choosing a profitable robot in the market. Drawdown It is common that you study drawdown before diving into any EA. As this is the likely losses you will incur in the strategy you are engaging. The certain trading robot drawdown could get as high as 80% which I would not recommend. A safe drawdown would range 10%-20%, while max drawdown would range within 35%-50% depending on your risk appetite. Martingale/Grid This is a strategy which projects a clean curve on every portfolio. The only downside is that the stacked trades one day may backfire and margin call your account in a single day. In my opinion, such a strategy has its pro and con and it would be difficult to even debate if it is suitable for investment since such a strategy is more towards probability game/ gambling with formula. View the Best Forex EAs, the reviews and proven results and select the best FX Expert Advisors for Metatrader MT4 for your needs: https://www.best-forex-robots.com/l/broker-profit/ Read the Reviews Before you settle on a forex robot, check out the reviews. You can assess the credibility of a forex robot by visit forex trading forums. Here, you can ask for advice about the forex robot you like or you can read posts about the robot by other members. Researching carefully can help you understand if a forex robot will be suited to your particular trading style and level of experience. Ask for Back Testing Data Any EA will have the back-testing data for more than 10 years. It would be tested on different pairs to ensure it is profitable on different market condition and best used on which currency pairs. Check out the Live Trading Results Request for live verified results. Usually, you can find real verified results either on myfxbook or FX Blue. Sometime EA developer will provide investor password for you to review their performance on a live account. I will only stick to EA with verified results since this is the only way to ensure profitability. Summary Forex Robot is not a get rich quick solution, always ensure you have set up stable and consistent risk management on every EA to ensure long-lasting profitable trading experience. Forex is already considered as a high-risk product, therefore you should always do your money management properly to avoid over-leveraging.
Common Trading Mistakes: How Trend Strategies Lose Edges in Corrections.
Losing consistently in a trend is frustrating. It tends to make people feel either stupid or conspired against. The market always goes up ... until you buy. What's with that? If you find yourself getting the run around in trending moves, this post should help. We'll start with having a look at the areas common styles of trend following can generate losing signals '/ stop losses. The two main types of trend trading are breakouts and retracements. Here we can see the areas they are likely to generate losing trades in a typical trend formation. https://preview.redd.it/14c7t96ufbj31.png?width=637&format=png&auto=webp&s=ca52ae781d968c106609808963ff2202e0cfcce9 On the left, we have breakout loses. On the right we have retracement losses. The trades on the right are not too much of a problem. If you had a sold trend trading strategy using breakouts and maintained it with good money management, you'd be doing well. Having some strings of small losses would not matter relative to the trend moves you catch. It's this red bit. This is where things get sketchy. Here a lot of false signals will be generated. In a larger picture for retracement traders, but also on short term false breakouts. Strategies that would have been very profitable ran through the blue area can become breakeven or losing strategies in the red area. This is actually (in my view) likely the reason most trend based EAs that can be designed easily or bought have limited long term profitability even if they produce great short term results. To make money in a blue market, the EA needs you to tell it how to do two things. Not get stopped out, and sell. There may be bumpy bits, but it will make money so long as that market condition continues. This is all well and good, but the reality of having to deal with risk control in adverse market conditions will inevitably come along. When this happens, not adapting your trend strategy to filter out the losing streaks that most strategies will generate seriously hampers your net profitability and can even turn a good strategy bad. In the early week gap and brief breakout on USDJPY, I thought it was likely we were switching from a blue market to a red market. So I activated the trend followers of different variations on my Shorting Noobs strategy, and waited to see if they'd pick up the worst signals (giving me ideal entries). https://www.reddit.com/Forex/comments/cvki79/shorting_noobs_fake_news_false_breakouts_and_the/ https://preview.redd.it/v34h1n0sgbj31.png?width=1017&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae7055bf385ee44465b3d2afb42246998bac1114 I explained what I thought the best trade pan for the sort of price action we'd see in the coming trading sessions would be. https://preview.redd.it/x9qmvoqwgbj31.png?width=763&format=png&auto=webp&s=34a250cf147cda489629c824cd4addb93118701b My theory here is if you put a bunch of okay strategies (and these are not horrible traders. They have rules, and follow them. Do overall okay) into the very worst conditions, they'll do the worst thing. Which saves me the effort of being here doing what I think is the best thing. To look for big drops, and then it have a little false breakout. Buy this and take profits into spikes. Here that is a bit closer. https://preview.redd.it/1vgi23ohibj31.png?width=805&format=png&auto=webp&s=cb13f88ed34431c1e23a0da04fcf3c00f849ee0a Particularly where the red mark is, this has produce a perfect counter signal. Sharp drop, false breakout. Buy and take profit into spike up. The interesting thing about this for me, is I do not find too much to be critical about with many of these positions if we are to look at the market from the perspective of a seller. Their stop losses seem to make sense from much of the stop loss rules commonly used (and ones working for them okay in other times of the strategy), but they're commonly being stopped out at the highs. The main problem most strategies have is the recurrence of what can be increasingly strong looking sell signals. When using solid rules, this is a limited problem (can still be big), but without this and with there being emotional decisions made, this is a really hard time to trade. It's easy to lose all your money trying to follow the trend here, without really doing too much wrong other than starting to chase a loss or refuse to accept a loss. Then things happen so quickly, and that's it. Being a revenge seller selling into the bear engulfing bars right before the 50 pips 1 minute candles does not go well a few times in a row (tried and tested, would not recommend). As I mentioned in the comments for the OP of this analysis, I stopped selling at 106.05. I stopped copying most of the strategies there because I didn't want them accumulating sells at a possible high. All through the consolidation period their have been sells accumulating and obviously the stops are above the highs, which is exactly the area I'd expect to spike out and reverse from in this pattern. It's what my manual trade plan inverts. https://preview.redd.it/3488sp3hlbj31.png?width=692&format=png&auto=webp&s=3cbc46de4a1b121526421d27568fe0d7f30d86f8 So at this point these strategies that have been doing well over the blue period (which has been a longer time) have lost most of gains. If the trend continues from here in the main they will breakeven on this red section (would be okay). If there are spike outs of the highs they will generate a lot more losing signals. By the end of this, strategies that have been profitable for 3 months will have leaked back a substantial amount of that in only 4 - 5 days. Learning to remove these correction weeks from their trading patterns would very much benefit most trend following systems. Here's the overall results from betting against either trend following or trend reversal mistakes like this. https://preview.redd.it/6f8v4vgumbj31.png?width=818&format=png&auto=webp&s=7bc8049fedf69a447597695a15e9ff1510d3a515
How to get started in Forex - A comprehensive guide for newbies
Almost every day people come to this subreddit asking the same basic questions over and over again. I've put this guide together to point you in the right direction and help you get started on your forex journey. A quick background on me before you ask: My name is Bob, I'm based out of western Canada. I started my forex journey back in January 2018 and am still learning. However I am trading live, not on demo accounts. I also code my own EA's. I not certified, licensed, insured, or even remotely qualified as a professional in the finance industry. Nothing I say constitutes financial advice. Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt, but everything I've outlined below is a synopsis of some tough lessons I've learned over the last year of being in this business. LET'S GET SOME UNPLEASANTNESS OUT OF THE WAY I'm going to call you stupid. I'm also going to call you dumb. I'm going to call you many other things. I do this because odds are, you are stupid, foolish,and just asking to have your money taken away. Welcome to the 95% of retail traders. Perhaps uneducated or uninformed are better phrases, but I've never been a big proponent of being politically correct. Want to get out of the 95% and join the 5% of us who actually make money doing this? Put your grown up pants on, buck up, and don't give me any of this pc "This is hurting my feelings so I'm not going to listen to you" bullshit that the world has been moving towards. Let's rip the bandage off quickly on this point - the world does not give a fuck about you. At one point maybe it did, it was this amazing vision nicknamed the American Dream. It died an agonizing, horrible death at the hand of capitalists and entrepreneurs. The world today revolves around money. Your money, my money, everybody's money. People want to take your money to add it to theirs. They don't give a fuck if it forces you out on the street and your family has to live in cardboard box. The world just stopped caring in general. It sucks, but it's the way the world works now. Welcome to the new world order. It's called Capitalism. And here comes the next hard truth that you will need to accept - Forex is a cruel bitch of a mistress. She will hurt you. She will torment you. She will give you nightmares. She will keep you awake at night. And then she will tease you with a glimmer of hope to lure you into a false sense of security before she then guts you like a fish and shows you what your insides look like. This statement applies to all trading markets - they are cruel, ruthless, and not for the weak minded. The sooner you accept these truths, the sooner you will become profitable. Don't accept it? That's fine. Don't bother reading any further. If I've offended you I don't give a fuck. You can run back home and hide under your bed. The world doesn't care and neither do I. For what it's worth - I am not normally an major condescending asshole like the above paragraphs would suggest. In fact, if you look through my posts on this subreddit you will see I am actually quite helpful most of the time to many people who come here. But I need you to really understand that Forex is not for most people. It will make you cry. And if the markets themselves don't do it, the people in the markets will. LESSON 1 - LEARN THE BASICS Save yourself and everybody here a bunch of time - learn the basics of forex. You can learn the basics for free - BabyPips has one of the best free courses online which explains what exactly forex is, how it works, different strategies and methods of how to approach trading, and many other amazing topics. You can access the BabyPips course by clicking this link: https://www.babypips.com/learn/forex Do EVERY course in the School of Pipsology. It's free, it's comprehensive, and it will save you from a lot of trouble. It also has the added benefit of preventing you from looking foolish and uneducated when you come here asking for help if you already know this stuff. If you still have questions about how forex works, please see the FREE RESOURCES links on the /Forex FAQ which can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/Forex/wiki/index Quiz Time Answer these questions truthfully to yourself: -What is the difference between a market order, a stop order, and a limit order? -How do you draw a support/resistance line? (Demonstrate it to yourself) -What is the difference between MACD, RSI, and Stochastic indicators? -What is fundamental analysis and how does it differ from technical analysis and price action trading? -True or False: It's better to have a broker who gives you 500:1 margin instead of 50:1 margin. Be able to justify your reasoning. If you don't know to answer to any of these questions, then you aren't ready to move on. Go back to the School of Pipsology linked above and do it all again. If you can answer these questions without having to refer to any kind of reference then congratulations, you are ready to move past being a forex newbie and are ready to dive into the wonderful world of currency trading! Move onto Lesson 2 below. LESSON 2 - RANDOM STRANGERS ARE NOT GOING TO HELP YOU GET RICH IN FOREX This may come as a bit of a shock to you, but that random stranger on instagram who is posting about how he is killing it on forex is not trying to insprire you to greatness. He's also not trying to help you. He's also not trying to teach you how to attain financial freedom. 99.99999% of people posting about wanting to help you become rich in forex are LYING TO YOU. Why would such nice, polite people do such a thing? Because THEY ARE TRYING TO PROFIT FROM YOUR STUPIDITY. Plain and simple. Here's just a few ways these "experts" and "gurus" profit from you:
Referral Links - If they require you to click a specific link to signup for something, it means they are an affiliate. They get a commission from whatever the third party is that they are sending you to. I don't care if it's a brokerage, training program, hell even an Amazon link to a book - if they insist you have to click their super exclusive, can't-get-this-deal-any-other-way-but-clicking-my-link type bullshit, it's an affiliate link. There is nothing inherently wrong with affiliate programs, but you are literally generating money for some stranger because they convinced you to buy something. Some brokers such as ICMarkets have affiliate programs that payout a percentage of the commission you generate - this is a really clever system - whether you profit or blow your entire account, the person who referred you to the broker makes a profit off you. Clever eh?
Signal Services, Education & Training Programs, Courses - If somebody is telling you they are making a killing with a signal service and are trying to convince you to join it, I guarantee they are getting a piece of your monthly fee. And better still, these signal services often work...for about a week. Just long enough to suck a bunch of poor fools into it. You see people making money, you want in so you agree to pay the $200+/month subscription fee. You follow the signals and it looks like it's making money for a few days or weeks. Then it turns sideways, you start losing money hand over fist. Pretty soon you have lost most of your trading account because you blindly followed a signal service. And better still - when you go screaming at the person running the signal service they will be very quick to point you to their No Refunds policy. To add insult to injury, the buttfucker that referred you to the signal service in the past will likely listen to you getting mad, and then come back with something like "Sorry it didn't work out, but I just joined this other amazing service and it's working great, you should come join it to earn your money back. Here's my link..." You get the point here right?
Multi-Level Marketing (MLMs) - These people are scum. They are going to offer you training and education, signals, access to forex experts and gurus, and all kinds of other shit with the promise that you will live the dream and become financially free. They are also loading you into a pyrmaid scheme where you will be hounded to recruit other people and make money off them just like you got roped into it. A really prime example here is iMarkets Live (or IML for short). Don't touch this shit with a 10 foot pole. I don't care what they are claiming, you will lose everything using them.
Fund Managers - These people make my skin crawl. It's a classic scam and it works like this - somebody will post online about how much money they are making trading forex/commodities/stocks/whatever. Most of the time they won't explicitly post they are offering a trading service, rather they just put the message out there and wait for the ignorant masses (that's you) to contact them. They will charm you. They will lie to you. They will promise you the moon if you simply wire them some money or give them API access to your trading account. Care to guess what happens next? If you send a wire transfer (or Western Union...hell any kind of payment to them) they will vanish. Happens usually after they take a bunch of suckers for the ride. You sent them $2,000 and so do 9 other suckers. They just made $20,000 and are gone. With API access to your account, you will find your account gets blown super fast or worse - possibly leaving you open to persecution by the broker you are using.
These are just a few examples. The reality is that very few people make it big in forex or any kind of trading. If somebody is trying to sell you the dream, they are essentially a magician - making you look the other way while they snatch your wallet and clean you out. Additionally, on the topic of fund managers - legitimate fund managers will be certified, licensed, and insured. Ask them for proof of those 3 things. What they typically look like are:
Certified - This varies from country to country, in the US it's FINRA (http://www.finra.org). They need to have their Series 7 certification minimum. You can make the case that other FINRA certifications are acceptable in lieu of Series 7, but the 7 is the gold standard.
Licensed - They need to have a valid business license issued by the government. It must clearly state they are an investment company, preferrably a hedge fund because they have some super strict requirements to operate (and often require $25,000+ in fees just to get their business license, so you know they at least have some skin in the game).
Insured - They need to be backed by an insurance company. I'm not talking general insurance for shit like their office burning down. I'm talking about a government-implemented protection insurance program - in the US I believe that is issued by the Securities Investment Protection Corporation (https://www.sipc.org/).
If you are talking to a fund manager and they are insisting they have all of these, get a copy of their verification documents and lookup their licenses on the directories of the issuers to verify they are valid. If they are, then at least you are talking to somebody who seems to have their shit together and is doing investment management and trading as a professional and you are at least partially protected when the shit hits the fan. LESSON 3 - UNDERSTAND YOUR RISK Many people jump into Forex, drop $2000 into a broker account and start trading 1 lot orders because they signed up with a broker thinking they will get rich because they were given 500:1 margin and can risk it all on each trade. Worst-case scenario you lose your account, best case scenario you become a millionaire very quickly. Seems like a pretty good gamble right? You are dead wrong. As a new trader, you should never risk more than 1% of your account balance on a trade. If you have some experience and are confident and doing well, then it's perfectly natural to risk 2-3% of your account per trade. Anybody who risks more than 4-5% of their account on a single trade deserves to blow their account. At that point you aren't trading, you are gambling. Don't pretend you are a trader when really you are just putting everything on red and hoping the roulette ball lands in the right spot. It's stupid and reckless and going to screw you very quickly. Let's do some math here: You put $2,000 into your trading account. Risking 1% means you are willing to lose $20 per trade. That means you are going to be trading micro lots, or 0.01 lots most likely ($0.10/pip). At that level you can have a trade stop loss at -200 pips and only lose $20. It's the best starting point for anybody. Additionally, if you SL 20 trades in a row you are only down $200 (or 10% of your account) which isn't that difficult to recover from. Risking 3% means you are willing to lose $60 per trade. You could do mini lots at this point, which is 0.1 lots (or $1/pip). Let's say you SL on 20 trades in a row. You've just lost $1,200 or 60% of your account. Even veteran traders will go through periods of repeat SL'ing, you are not a special snowflake and are not immune to periods of major drawdown. Risking 5% means you are willing to lose $100 per trade. SL 20 trades in a row, your account is blown. As Red Foreman would call it - Good job dumbass. Never risk more than 1% of your account on any trade until you can show that you are either consistently breaking even or making a profit. By consistently, I mean 200 trades minimum. You do 200 trades over a period of time and either break-even or make a profit, then you should be alright to increase your risk. Unfortunately, this is where many retail traders get greedy and blow it. They will do 10 trades and hit their profit target on 9 of them. They will start seeing huge piles of money in their future and get greedy. They will start taking more risk on their trades than their account can handle. 200 trades of break-even or profitable performance risking 1% per trade. Don't even think about increasing your risk tolerance until you do it. When you get to this point, increase you risk to 2%. Do 1,000 trades at this level and show break-even or profit. If you blow your account, go back down to 1% until you can figure out what the hell you did differently or wrong, fix your strategy, and try again. Once you clear 1,000 trades at 2%, it's really up to you if you want to increase your risk. I don't recommend it. Even 2% is bordering on gambling to be honest. LESSON 4 - THE 500 PIP DRAWDOWN RULE This is a rule I created for myself and it's a great way to help protect your account from blowing. Sometimes the market goes insane. Like really insane. Insane to the point that your broker can't keep up and they can't hold your orders to the SL and TP levels you specified. They will try, but during a flash crash like we had at the start of January 2019 the rules can sometimes go flying out the window on account of the trading servers being unable to keep up with all the shit that's hitting the fan. Because of this I live by a rule I call the 500 Pip Drawdown Rule and it's really quite simple - Have enough funds in your account to cover a 500 pip drawdown on your largest open trade. I don't care if you set a SL of -50 pips. During a flash crash that shit sometimes just breaks. So let's use an example - you open a 0.1 lot short order on USDCAD and set the SL to 50 pips (so you'd only lose $50 if you hit stoploss). An hour later Trump makes some absurd announcement which causes a massive fundamental event on the market. A flash crash happens and over the course of the next few minutes USDCAD spikes up 500 pips, your broker is struggling to keep shit under control and your order slips through the cracks. By the time your broker is able to clear the backlog of orders and activity, your order closes out at 500 pips in the red. You just lost $500 when you intended initially to only risk $50. It gets kinda scary if you are dealing with whole lot orders. A single order with a 500 pip drawdown is $5,000 gone in an instant. That will decimate many trader accounts. Remember my statements above about Forex being a cruel bitch of a mistress? I wasn't kidding. Granted - the above scenario is very rare to actually happen. But glitches to happen from time to time. Broker servers go offline. Weird shit happens which sets off a fundamental shift. Lots of stuff can break your account very quickly if you aren't using proper risk management. LESSON 5 - UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT TRADING METHODOLOGIES Generally speaking, there are 3 trading methodologies that traders employ. It's important to figure out what method you intend to use before asking for help. Each has their pros and cons, and you can combine them in a somewhat hybrid methodology but that introduces challenges as well. In a nutshell:
Price Action Trading (Sometimes called Naked Trading) is very effective at identifying when trends will start and finish. This gives you the advantage of staying ahead of the market and predicting when a change in trend direction will occur. It has the disadvantage of being really easy to screw it up if you don't plot your support and resistance lines properly and interpret the chart wrong. Because you can identify a change in trend direction, you'll generally make more profit on a new trend than a technical strategy will.
Technical Analytics (or TA) uses math and statistics to try and identify where the market is headed or confirm/reject whether a trend is happening. It has the advantage of being very math and stat driven which is hard to refute the numbers, but it has the disadvantage of being late to the party when it comes to identifying trends (hence why people call TA a lagging strategy). When people fail using TA, it's not because of the math - it's because you misinterpreted what the math is telling you.
Fundamental Analysis (or FA) uses news and macro scale events to predict what is going on. A really good example right now is Brexit, what a clusterfuck that is. Every time some major brexit news breaks it causes all sorts of choas in almost every currency pair. Fundamental trading has the highest potential profitability per trade but it also has the highest potential drawdown per trade.
Now you may be thinking that you want to be a a price action trader - you should still learn the principles and concepts behind TA and FA. Same if you are planning to be a technical trader - you should learn about price action and fundamental analysis. More knowledge is better, always. With regards to technical analysis, you need to really understand what the different indicators are tell you. It's very easy to misinterpret what an indicator is telling you, which causes you to make a bad trade and lose money. It's also important to understand that every indicator can be tuned to your personal preferences. You might find, for example, that using Bollinger Bands with the normal 20 period SMA close, 2 standard deviation is not effective for how you look at the chart, but changing that to say a 20 period EMA average price, 1 standard deviation bollinger band indicator could give you significantly more insight. LESSON 6 - TIMEFRAMES MATTER Understanding the differences in which timeframes you trade on will make or break your chosen strategy. Some strategies work really well on Daily timeframes (i.e. Ichimoku) but they fall flat on their face if you use them on 1H timeframes, for example. There is no right or wrong answer on what timeframe is best to trade on. Generally speaking however, there are 2 things to consider:
Speed - If you are scalping (trading on the really fast candles like 1M, 5M, 15M, etc) odds are your trades are very short lived. Maybe 10 minutes to an hour tops. For the most part, scalping strategies will produce little profit per trade but make up for it in the sheer volume of trades. Whereas swing trading may only make a few trades but each one could be worth a significant amount of money.
Spread (the fee you pay to the broker when you trade) - If you are a scalper, the spread is your worst enemy because you have to overcome it very fast to make a profit on your order. Whereas swing trading the spread hardly impacts you at all.
If you are a total newbie to forex, I suggest you don't trade on anything shorter than the 1H timeframe when you are first learning. Trading on higher timeframes tends to be much more forgiving and profitable per trade. Scalping is a delicate art and requires finesse and can be very challenging when you are first starting out. LESSON 7 - AUTOBOTS...ROLL OUT! Yeah...I'm a geek and grew up with the Transformers franchise decades before Michael Bay came along. Deal with it. Forex bots are called EA's (Expert Advisors). They can be wonderous and devastating at the same time. /Forex is not really the best place to get help with them. That is what /algotrading is useful for. However some of us that lurk on /Forex code EA's and will try to assist when we can. Anybody can learn to code an EA. But just like how 95% of retail traders fail, I would estimate the same is true for forex bots. Either the strategy doesn't work, the code is buggy, or many other reasons can cause EA's to fail. Because EA's can often times run up hundreds of orders in a very quick period of time, it's critical that you test them repeatedly before letting them lose on a live trading account so they don't blow your account to pieces. You have been warned. If you want to learn how to code an EA, I suggest you start with MQL. It's a programming language which can be directly interpretted by Meta Trader. The Meta Trader terminal client even gives you a built in IDE for coding EA's in MQL. The downside is it can be buggy and glitchy and caused many frustrating hours of work to figure out what is wrong. If you don't want to learn MQL, you can code an EA up in just about any programming language. Python is really popular for forex bots for some reason. But that doesn't mean you couldn't do it in something like C++ or Java or hell even something more unusual like JQuery if you really wanted. I'm not going to get into the finer details of how to code EA's, there are some amazing guides out there. Just be careful with them. They can be your best friend and at the same time also your worst enemy when it comes to forex. One final note on EA's - don't buy them. Ever. Let me put this into perspective - I create an EA which is literally producing money for me automatically 24/5. If it really is a good EA which is profitable, there is no way in hell I'm selling it. I'm keeping it to myself to make a fortune off of. EA's that are for sale will not work, will blow your account, and the developer who coded it will tell you that's too darn bad but no refunds. Don't ever buy an EA from anybody. LESSON 8 - BRING ON THE HATERS You are going to find that this subreddit is frequented by trolls. Some of them will get really nasty. Some of them will threaten you. Some of them will just make you miserable. It's the price you pay for admission to the /Forex club. If you can't handle it, then I suggest you don't post here. Find a more newbie-friendly site. It sucks, but it's reality. We often refer to trolls on this subreddit as shitcunts. That's your word of the day. Learn it, love it. Shitcunts. YOU MADE IT, WELCOME TO FOREX! If you've made it through all of the above and aren't cringing or getting scared, then welcome aboard the forex train! You will fit in nicely here. Ask your questions and the non-shitcunts of our little corner of reddit will try to help you. Assuming this post doesn't get nuked and I don't get banned for it, I'll add more lessons to this post over time. Lessons I intend to add in the future:
Why you will blow your first account and what to do when it happens
Trading Psychology (this will be a beefy one and will take a while to put together)
Exotics vs Majors and which you should focus on as a newbie (aka how to blow your account in a single trade with exotics)
TLDR; Learn from scratch or pay to get a code to build off I have a strategy I traded manually last semester on forex that netted me some gains. (Around 3 percent over 40 trades). Unfortunately I no longer have the tabulated results so take it as you wish. The strategy only profited around 40 percent of the time at what was ideally a 2 to 1 risk. Problem is I can't really evaluate the efficacy for it because it took almost a couple of months to make those 40 trades on 1 min timeframes on forex pairs. Not to mention all the liberties I took exiting early. I intend to try to make an EA out of this on MT4 so i can really test it in a truly mechanical environment and learn from the shortcomings/advantages of this strategy. But I am not proficient at coding, I only know abit of C++ and MATLAB. So I am considering either going at it myself or hiring someone to code it for me (Python -> ZMQ -> MT4). Heres the strat: It might be stupid but I think there will be alot to learn watching it fail. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gOuUCGjfqcvEmSfbI1REEUBN-UWlUf0J/view?usp=sharing Basically, it uses ATR for the exit sizes, Bollinger band and MA crosses for entry and direction. If it closes out of the money it will wait until the MAs cross before entering a trade again. Only one trade will be opened at one time. This is a pretty vanilla idea that can be found all over the internet tbh. But I want to see how and why it wouldn't work. Will this be too difficult of a maiden project on MT4? Should I learn and build off of a sample code instead?
I hope a lot of you learned a valuable lesson over this past year. This community got a much deeper look into business than what's taught in any school or book. We all got to witness what a snake in the grass looks like in a real world setting. The argument of someone shouldn't be at fault for wanting to make money is a poor one. Of course wanting a strong ROI is desirable, that is the goal of every for profit business in the world. However business and marketing has changed drastically in the past 20 years, instead of having to work extremely hard and develop skills, knowledge, and experience less and less people have to earn success. Social media has drastically altered how we view things, now instead of having to earn success HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people spread across social media have a platform unlike before. While in some cases it's helped the average consumer, reddit calling out EA over loot boxes and pay to unlock content, the other side of it has created people like Jace Hall. You see Jace is purely an opportunist, unfortunately more and more people like him are able to succeed now in our society. Jace just like the Multi-Level Marketer / "Wealth training coaches" / whatever trend is popular from Forex - Bitcoin and now the ever popular FBA, ECOM, and branding coaches, are the scum of the earth. The common theme around all of them is the constant attempt to project themselves as experts or visionaries with the goal of taking advantage of others. I encourage all of you to sit back and think about what happened with the H1PL, a lot of you blindly followed the absolute garbage Jace spewed since first showing his face at Twitchcon with his H1PL pitch. He never cared about the game or community from the start, it was when his terrible business acumen and lack of skills became abundantly clear and he needed to champion h1 because of his own failures. I noticed he has decided to move on from H1 now, how fitting. Next time any of you see him involved in something it should be a red flag to you. And make sure you speak out about it, hes only trying to take advantage of a situation, hes never trying to advance it. Regards,
Hello guys, I am just starting in Forex, and I suck at maths and well.. I need your help to understand things better. I have an account of 100$ for starter, and i'm running an EA that is most likely a scam but well, it works until i understand things, i'm trying to figure out the lot sizes, like I tried 0.08 and I got cents in return which is terrible, and it doesn't trade much like barely one trade a night or nothing at all, i'm not sure how to raise my trading and profit but still stay on the safe side. I have 2 options in the EA: Lot size, and LotsRiskReductor, I'm not sure what to fill out in there, all the formulas just dont seem to get in my head. So I'd appreciate it if anyone of you can help me understand how all the formulas work to know which lot size I can use and what my profit is going to be if I used xx lot size. Thanks.
https://preview.redd.it/r7y92ugo5bc41.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=14c8d7adb31d9d7936b826e6a01ba42e5c7f079e To make trading on the Forex market not only profitable, but also comfortable, many traders use automatic trading systems, or, as they are also called, Forex robots or EA (Expert Advisor). What are EA for? The answer is very simple. If you want to not miss a single opportunity to open or close a profitable transaction, then you need to watch the market around the clock, which no one is able to do. In addition, the trader does not always manage to cope with his emotions, and he makes trading decisions based not on calculation and logic, but on his own feelings - for example, a feeling of excitement or, conversely, excitement. Often such transactions are unprofitable. An Expert Advisor does not have emotions, which means that the human factor can be immediately excluded from trading, which greatly increases the effectiveness of trading. There are many things to consider when choosing the most profitable and result-oriented EA. For example, it is strongly recommended, before choosing an expert advisor, to pay attention to profit / loss, risk / profit, stop-limits and other relevant statistics by conducting a test inside the platform on historical data. Even if you choose an expert advisor with an excellent reputation, there is always a risk of loss, nevertheless. Thus, it is also important to find out the degree of risk that you are willing to take. Before using EAs in real trading, you need to test expert advisor - for example, on a demo account or on archive quotes. Please note that the quality of the history of quotes for different forex brokers is different, which can cause serious discrepancies in the results of testing one expert advisor on accounts from different brokers. This is necessary in order to understand how effective one or another automatic program is and not to risk one’s own means. After all, if it turns out that on a demo account the EA proved to be not the best and did not bring you the expected profit, then you should not use this expert advisor in real trading (or you need to better configure its work). But if you see that the expert advisor is showing good trading results, then it should be noted. Testing an expert advisor before use is a prerequisite for profitable trading.
Hi All - new to this group, not to Reddit. I got into trading Forex with EA late last year and got addicted. I've written multiple EAs and continue to tinker with them in a never ending attempt of making them better for profit and limiting draw down as much as possible. The reason I am posting today is to ask for some help on a problem I have noticed in my MT4 account. Whenever the EA opens a new order I insert my own comment value in there. Usually this is the version of the software e.g. "V1", "V2", "X" etc. Currently I have the comment to be set to "M IV". However, just today I noticed that there are some orders open with the comment "X". Now the EA running on charts does not have comment "X" anywhere in the code. Comment "X" is a version I was using a couple of weeks ago but have since changed the EA. Its as if some of the variables have retained a value from the older version of the EA. If thats the case the there may be other problems as well. I have reset my VPS (deleting all old files) Removed all EAs from the VPS ... except for the one I am currently using which should comment "M IV". So question is why am I seeing comment "X" on some of the orders opened today? Curious to learn if others have come across this issue and how they resolved it. https://preview.redd.it/a80ajysfmdo31.jpg?width=3888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee20c66f53c5cefb40505c664ec7422acb121843
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Here is what an EA looks like for those who are wondering
For those of you wondering what an EA (forex automatic trading program) looks like and how it works, here is an example of one I've been working on today: https://preview.redd.it/6egnrh5y5td21.png?width=1777&format=png&auto=webp&s=675718cb75f73b524ab37fb824689bfd76065ca7 What this particular EA does is tries to identify trends using a few indicators on two timeframes. It then outputs what it thinks of the market in the little panel you see on the top-right corner. Right now it's saying USDCAD has a weak bearish trend, which makes sense as you can see on the left side of the chart there was a gradual decline yesterday which ended abruptly with the massive dump (that's the Powell interest rate announcement yesterday btw). If this bot had been live trading, it would have jumped on the downward trend (first candle shown on the chart, roughly 1.32650) and rode it down until the trend turned around 1.31350 before bailing out with 130 pips profit. Since then the pair has been floundering a bunch as the market hasn't figured out where it's going now. However it looks like it might start turning around and head up - that's what MACD is starting to suggest, the upward momentum is surpassing the downward momentum. So we're likely going to see a rally heading into next week. Because of this uncertainty, the bot would have stopped until it can clearly see a strong trend going. EA's are very useful because:
They will very quickly show you how good your strategy actually is. You set the rules and they go to work. If your strategy is shit and you've just been getting luck, you'll find out very quickly. If your strategy is good then the bot will make it better as it will be more precise in entering and exiting trades than you can.
They run automatically. The EA will work in your sleep or while you are working or whatever. If your strategy is solid (see above point) then the EA will work 24/5 for you. You won't miss opportunities like you will manually trading.
On this flip side, EA's can be risky because:
If your strategy is bad, the EA will be bad. It likely wreck your trading account if you don't code it properly.
If the coding is bad, you are beyond fucked. Even if the strategy is sound, if it wasn't coded properly or you didn't account for certain edge cases, consider your trading account a write off.
If the computer powering the EA loses poweinternet connectivity/whatever, then it won't be running. That can result in lost opportunities but it's not the end of the world.
Because EA's generally rely solely on technical analysis, they are always lagging behind. They will be a little late to jump on the trend wagon, and they will be a little late to jump off it. So while in the above example the bot would likely have made 130 pips, a human who was using a similar strategy would likely have jumped on earlier and gotten out earlier and probably hit around 150-160 pips profit.
Anyways, this is what an EA looks like. Happy thursday :) EDIT: Update as of Friday morning. After doing some more work on it after I posted this yesterday I set the bot live. It identified the entry conditions on GBPCAD and placed a sell order (see the yellow box around the green candle in the screenshot below). At first the market started swinging upwards, but the overall daily trend was down so the bot held it's ground. This morning it's at 80 pips profit and still going strong: https://preview.redd.it/z8ohpy5btyd21.png?width=1772&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e27928fb8b4ee1802cc5b0c2d992406e082c656 /Bob
So, I am trying to be more precise with my trading. I was looking in the wiki here, but the books mentioned, and the general outline does not mention statistical analysis for Forex, or trading in general. A brief overview of my current progress: I started with the standard route to trading: reading books/articles on TA patterns, indicators, heuristics etc. to guide my reasoning for opening a position. Initially, it went well. I even wrote some EAs and one of them was sufficient enough to book some profits. Along the way, I became aware of basic understanding of fundamentals and FA. Then, I got greedy, started to "gamble" with currency pairs that were too risky. Then lost it all, made it back, lost it again, finally made it back. Learnt some lessons along the way, and the greed impulse is sufficiently eradicated after that whole trauma. And it's not even been a year! Now, partly because of my professional background, and partly because of the experience for almost a year, I find that this whole TA stuff is not sufficient, even when vaguely paired with FA (guessing where the market will go, based on interest rate decisions, GDP, PMI, central bank mandate, interviews, policies, political conditions, reading qualitative books on specific economies). I have a qualitative strategy for now, based on simple MAs and pivots/SR levels. At the same time, people say that "no one can predict what will happen next in markets." Which is true and all, but what about a probabilistic, quantitative idea of where the market is heading? Is there any hope with regression analysis, or some advanced probability calculus course, that helps with trading, or even Forex trading specifically? Any books that have helped any traders here? Currently, I am reading Evidence-Based Technical Analysis and Introduction to Statistical Learning. EBTA is alright, not yet giving me much precise ground. ISL is a general textbook, which I am reading just for the fun of it. Hopefully, it will be a good foundation for developing future strategies.
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I've noticed that there haven't been any Reddit reviews on Algotrading101 even though the course has positive reviews on google. The course was given for free a few years ago on Reddit, another reason I find it strange for there to be no reviews. Either the course is so good that no one wants to share the secret or nobody has made a profiting EA/bot from the course (obviously these are two extremes). I'm a beginner in FOREX trading as well as programming, I've done a generic C++ course years ago and I've coded a bit in VBA (mainly learning only what I need for my job; loops is probably the most complicated coding I've done). I've read a few articles here and there on INVESTOPEDIA about FOREX, however, I am not yet familiar with all the abbreviations and key words. I will delve into the course for the next few months. I will update this post weekly/monthly depending on how much time I have. I am committing myself by posting this here! Wish me luck and profit :)
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Forex Grid strategies are by far the most popular strategies, cause traders like the enormous profits. However, grid strategies carry more than average risk and I will explain what grid EA’s are. Although you might think grid systems are the same as Martingale strategies there is a difference. The difference is that grid strategies do not double up the lot size. So once you see a forex robot entering positions with the following entry steps, you are definitely looking at a Martingale strategy; 1 lots – 2 lots – 4 lots – 8 lots – 16 lots etc. As a result you will not find any Martingale EA in the featured robot section, since doubling up lot size we consider as too risky. Martingale does not always have to be bad as long as you understand that these EAs can “blow up ” your account. As a result you will need a lot of margin in your account. Advantages of Grid strategies:
Minimum influence for stop loss hunting
Not very spread sensitive
Behaves well in thin markets
Great results in ranging markets
Triple digits returns
Can be manually managed
So to pick currency pairs that are ranging will definitely decrease your risk. Disadvantages
Higher leverage required
No stop loss near first entry
Increase risk during strong market trends
The Grid EA’s on this website are listed as one of the best forex robots in the market. They use different steps which makes the strategy more effective in trending markets. Make sure you test a grid EA before using it in a live account. The best forex grid robot to use is probably the Piphiker, which you can test for free.
I wanted to talk a bit more about IB commissions, and how it can be used for the benefit of everyone here. First, I want to reiterate, I am evangelical about IC Markets because they are so much better than the broker most of your currently will use. I’ve traded with these other brokers, I know how much they suck. A lot of you do not. You think they are good because they are so much better than your last one … but that broker may have been one of your first and be abominal. For reference, the first broker I used would pay me $500 - $700 per head to sign people up there (a hell of a lot more than I get at IC). I would not sign anyone up there, because it sucks. I could probably make $50,000 a year doing this and the brokers a lot of you use are so bad I actively turn that down. Let’s talk about what IB commissions can be used for. See, money is just a means to an end. The end for most people is some sort of enjoyment, experience or achievement. The purpose of this sub is to help people find their feet then find their profits in the Forex markets, and this end can be far better met with money to push it along. Let’s say hypothetically there were 10,000 people here and each of them made me $1 a month. $10,000 a month income. I honestly do not need this much money. I am just not that greedy, and I just do not have that expensive taste. So I would be willing to put in a big chunk of this to improving the sub. Things I could do would include buying trading tools/softwares/indicators/EAs that I could then give away to you for free. Buying educational resources with re-seller rights, so I could then give it away to you for free. I can hire in people with professional understanding of the industry, and pay them to be here helping you (and to expect professionals not to be paid to teach you a high value skill, is selfish and greedy). So there are people here all the time that know how to help you and are rewarded for doing so. This is such a win/win/win. I buy free time, someone gets steady income and you guys get free quality education. It is a great scenario to aspire towards. Another thing I can do is fund investment accounts for those of you who show good promise to be able to advance into asset management. I can set you up with seed capital, set up managed account structures where I contract a fee with you and let you trade funds I invest. If you do well, the track record from this can be used to get you into more serious asset management when you’re ready for that. If we have homegrown money managers, this can serve towards those looking for that service but unsure who can be trusted. The asset managers here you will be able to track their progression from testing funds to increased funds. Those of you who become proficient in helping new people with their questions can perhaps be paid for contributions. Let’s be real about this, we are in Forex to make money. Making money is about being pragmatic and ensuring you take opportunities. Through IB commissions, I can create far more opportunities for people here than I could otherwise. It makes sense to do it. It is the difference between being able to do something pretty good, and something really great. Those of you sho stick around long enough will come to see I am a very fair person. Anything I gain from this I will share with you to further improve things for everyone.
On the development and confidence on your trading systems.
While I've never traded live before and still consider myself a total newbie, I've read plenty of books related to trading and forex in particular and have been demo trading for almost 6 monts both with mt4 and cTrader (and made a couple EAs and algos, since I have a CS background). I've blown more demo accounts than I can remember... From what I read (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) there are only two things you need in order to make it in forex: solid money management and a trading strategy with an edge. The only thing I couldn't find yet on any book is: How do you develop such a trading strategy? I don't want to know the secret sauce (when to go long or short), just the reasoning behind those strategies whether they're profitable or not. Is it just trial and error? Let's try to buy EURUSD when price goes above SMA14 on M15... (Backtests over a period of two years. Blows account.) Well, it didn't work. How about trying with H1?... (Back to backtesting...) Or is it that eventually you develop some kind of intuition about how markets are behaving and some things might work better that others? And just try those until it works? (Purposely leaving aside the discussion about the amount of backtesting you feel comfortable with before going live. I believe that deserves a thread on it's own) I'd love to hear from both technical and fundamental traders. UPDATE: A couple of days after posting this question, I came across a series of articles that describe one possible way to approach the development of a trading system: Build Better Strategies! Build Better Strategies! Part 2: Model-Based Systems Build Better Strategies! Part 3: The Development Process
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